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The overripe grapes are used for off-dry and sweet wines and the ones that can reach noble rot will be used for viscous dessert wines. In Vouvray with its predominantly argilo calcaire clay the wines are rounded with both acidity and weight and if the yields are kept low, it will express floral flavours and honey. Vincent Careme who produces Chenin wine in the Loire valley as well as South-Africa, is a brilliant example of how complex these wines can be. The harvesting of Chenin will often happen in a succession of pickings known as tries, depending on the ripeness of the grapes. With higher yields used in other countries like Australia or the United States, the wine will become “one of the nastiest wines” according to wine expert Oz Clark.